I thought I'd post this and garner some opinions on a topic everyone has probably thought about at some point - finales. My apologies if it gets too rambly (and many questions)... This is in light of a change in what encompasses a finale, so what exactly is it to you? I've seen everything from sky puke to single effects in layers, and whatever else is in between. However more recently I've seen more and more salutes make their way into finales and sometimes even replacing the more traditional wall of willows/nishiki kamuros. Whilst I personally do think that the noise/bangs are a part of fireworks as a whole and have no issues with salutes in a show to add variety, they don't seem appropriate at the end unless you mix them in with something visually stunning. This brings up the question of what exactly is a finale? The last few seconds/minutes of your display (or any display) essentially, but everyone goes about this differently. How much of your budget do you assign? How many different layers or effects do you aim for? Do you ever try something new? A common budget seems to be about 20% of the overall purchase, give or take. I started wondering this after the Galactic competition last year showing off a 'pile' of lushes and it somehow working. The idea seems to generally be taking a larger shotcount rapid fire cake (such as the wonderful weapon G) and multiplying it, angling it and filling the sky - maybe accentuating it with mines/rockets at the end or adding in some sound based effects like whistles. That being said, how does everyone go about planning their finale? Do you stick with what worked previously and adjust it to your budget or sometimes try unusual things? Do you plan the finale first and go backwards, or pick something not already in the show after making it? I'm curious partially because I'm trying to plan my finale for this year but struggling with order and budget a little, so it may be singles in sequence (which becomes more difficult with only videos and bore size to go from), but anyways that's another topic entirely for closer to show time. And last but not least how do we feel about certain effects in finales, or is anything a go? I suppose the overall idea is to create a lasting image for the spectators and a climax to the show overall, without too much repetition. I think that's enough ramble to attempt to say what I mean?